Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council - 18 August 2022 [Archived]

Teleconference

Attendees:

• Leif Sawyer, Chair (LS)
• Kat Hunter, Vice Chair (KH)
• Andrew Dul (AD)
• Brian Jones (BJ)
• Anita Nikolich (AN)
• Amy Potter (AP)
• Joe Provo (JP)
• Kerrie Richards (KR)
• Rob Seastrom (RS)
• Chris Tacit (CT)
• Alicia Trotman (AT)
• Matthew Wilder (MW)
• Alison Wood (AW)
• Chris Woodfield (CW)

ARIN Staff:

• Michael Abejuela, (MA) General Counsel
• Jenny Fulmer, (JF) Staff Attorney
• Sean Hopkins, (SH) Senior Policy Analyst
• Richard Jimmerson, (RJ) COO
• Lisa Liedel, (LL) Director, Registration Services
• Therese Simcox, Scribe, Senior Executive Assistant
• John Sweeting, (CCO) Chief Customer Officer

Regrets

• Alyssa Quinn (AQ)

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:05 p.m. ET. The presence of a quorum was noted. The Chair acknowledged AQ was unavailable.

2. Agenda Review

The Chair reviewed the agenda with the Council and called for comments.

The COO requested providing an update on the Policy Development Process (PDP). The Chair acknowledged and added it to Any Other Business.

3. Approval of the Minutes

(Exhibit A)

It was moved by AW, and seconded by CW, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of 21 July 2022, as written.”

The Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

The motion carried unanimously.

4. Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2020-6: Allowance for IPv4 Allocation “Swap” Transactions via 8.3 Specified Transfers and 8.4 Inter-RIR Transfers.

RS stated that there is no change to this policy as written and it is ready for presentation at ARIN 50.

5. Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Permit IPv4 Leased Addresses for Purposes of Determining Utilization for Future Allocations

AD stated that questions were posted to the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) to discuss whether the problem statement needed to be changed or modified. He reported that there has been little response received, and there is no support for the policy as it exists. He asked the AC to reach out to any supporters they are aware of, otherwise it may be abandoned.

6. Draft Policy ARIN 2021-7: Make Abuse Contact Useful.

AP stated that there have been no changes since last month and this policy will be presented at ARIN 50 for feedback given conflicting opinions that were posted on the PPML.

7. Draft Policy ARIN 2021-8: Deprecation of the ‘Autonomous System Originations’ Field.

AT stated that the policy has been changed to indicate the implementation of deprecation to two years. However, she asked if deprecation happened two years from now what happens to that data. She noted removal of language in section 3.5 would be done as well.

The Chair stated for clarity that the intent is to change the policy to suggest removing text and pushing out deprecation to two years. AT stated that she would appreciate feedback and then suggested the changes should be made before moving to recommended draft. All agreed.

The Chair requested AT reach out to AC’s mailing list for any additional comments from the Council. SH also will send a direct message to AT.

AT asked if it was within the scope of the policy to stipulate when deprecation should happen. The CCO replied that it is part of the policy and staff would implement it on a date specified in the policy. AT thanked him for clarifying.

8. Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2022-1: MDN Clarification for Qualification

CW stated that that are no changes to the policy, and it will be presented at ARIN 50.

9. Draft Policy ARIN 2022-2: Remove Barrier to BGP Uptake in ASN Policy.

KR stated that the author of policy is concerned that intent has been changed after the staff and legal review. She wants to continue to work with the author. She asked what the cut-off date was for the text so that it can possibly be moved forward and presented at ARIN 50.

The Chair stated there would not be enough time given the deadlines. KR stated in that case, the shepherds will work with author and will let the AC know the status.

10. Draft Policy ARIN 2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation Requirement for 8.5.5.

MW stated that staff and legal review has been received and he provided an update to the PPML suggesting that the review resolves the concerns that had surfaced based on community feedback.

11. Draft Policy ARIN 2022-4: Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.1 and 2.2.

AW stated that the text has been updated, based on community feedback, and is on the AC Wiki.

It was moved by AW, and seconded by RS, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts Draft Policy ARIN 2022-4: Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.1 and 2.2 as an editorial change.”

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

The motion carried with all in favor, via roll call vote.

12. Draft Policy ARIN-2022-5: Clean-up of NRPM Section 2.11.

AW stated that she was not prepared to provide an update as AQ was working on the text and was not available on this call. The Chair acknowledged.

13. ARIN-edit-2022-6: Editorial Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.12 and 2.14.

AN stated that the text is currently posted to the PPML for feedback and there is no action at this time.

14.. ARIN-edit-2022-7: Editorial Clean-up of NRPM Section 2.16.

AN stated that the text is currently posted to the PPML for feedback and there is no action at this time for this editorial change.

15. Draft Policy ARIN 2022-8: Streamlining Section 11 Policy Language.

CT stated that feedback has been received regarding the changes to the language, and the changes are being considered. There are no changes at this time.

16. ARIN-prop-308: Leasing not intended.

JP stated that the text was updated last month. Since then, a discussion of the scope of the proposal took place on the AC’s mailing list with a couple of opinions received. He stated some of the AC felt it was out of scope. He believed due to many of the prevailing conditions in Section 1, that it is within scope. He asked for an overall opinion from the AC. He noted that the problem statement has been trimmed down and reiterated that he believed it is in scope.

The Chair called for comments. AD agreed to move the proposal forward to draft policy status but would object to the policy afterwards. AP stated that she believed it is out of scope but respected other opinions.

JP stated he would like to advance the proposal forward to work on improving it.

It was moved by JP, and seconded by BJ, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-prop-308: Leasing not intended’ as a Draft Policy."

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

The motion carried 13 in favor and 1 against (AP) via roll call vote.

17. ARIN-prop-311: Editorial Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.4 and 2.5.

AN stated that the language was adjusted to meet suggestions of the style guide. They were minor edits.

It was moved by AN, and seconded by KH, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-prop-311: Editorial Clean-up of NRPM Sections 2.4 and 2.5’ as an editorial change."

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

The motion carried with all in favor, via roll call vote.

18. ARIN-prop-314: Clean-up of NRPM – Introduction of Section 2.17.

AW stated that there was verbiage around the definition of the IANA. She spoke with the Operations Manager at the IANA who provided feedback. AW stated she posted this to the AC Wiki and that there were no objections received from the community.

AW stated she intended to move the proposal forward as an editorial change. CT confirmed this was defining a term and as such was an editorial clarification. RS agreed. The Chair stated the community can object to it if they do not agree.

AW moved the proposal as an editorial change and RS seconded it. The Chair called for discussion. RS stated that changing the definition of things is not always editorial by nature, but the impact of this change will be zero. If there is a counter-argument, he would like to hear it.

AD stated that while he agrees this is not a material change to how we operate, the AC is extending the use of the editorial process beyond its original intent; and adding a completely new definition is not editorial. He stated he would be voting against the motion.

AW asked if she could move the proposal to a draft policy if the motion to move as an editorial change failed. The Chair stated she could do so.

The motion failed with 5 in favor (JP, RS, CT, MW, AW) and 8 against (AD, KH, BJ, AN, AP, KR, AT, CW, LS), via roll call vote.

It was moved by AW, and seconded by CT, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-prop-314: Clean-up of NRPM –Introduction of Section 2.17’, as a Draft Policy.”

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

The motion carried with all in favor via roll call vote.

19. ARIN-prop-317: Direct Allocation Language Update

RS stated that this is a new proposal, and the problem statement is clear and in scope.

It was moved by RS, and seconded by KH, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-prop-317: Direct Allocation Language Update’, as a Draft Policy.”

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

The motion carried with all in favor, via roll call vote.

20. ARIN-prop-318: Editorial Clean-up of NRPM Section 2.10

CW stated that he is not assuming this proposal is editorial in nature due to subtleties in changing the definition. He stated the proposal was clear and in scope.

It was moved by CW, and seconded by AT, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-prop-318: Editorial Clean-up of NRPM Section 2.10.’, as a Draft Policy.”

The Chair called for discussion. CT asked if the title is being changed to remove ‘editorial’ or will it follow? CW thanked him for bringing that up and stated the shepherds will remove ‘editorial’ from the title.

The motion carried with all in favor, via roll call vote.

CW added that he expects the PPML comments will ask about it. If they disagree, he will be happy to change it. The Chair agreed.

21. ARIN AC Working Groups

• Number Resource Policy Manual Working Group (NRPM WG) Update. JP stated that there has been much activity around Section 2 which resulted in new proposals. We updated prop 311 and sent suggestions on Draft Policy 2022-4 which was accepted. We submitted updates to 2.10 which we just voted on. We welcome any suggestions from the Council. JP gave kudos for CT for taking on a large share of this effort.

• Policy Development Process Working Group (PDP WG) Update. AP stated that the draft has been submitted to the Board. The Chair asked the COO if he can provide his update at this time. The COO stated that the Board reviewed the new draft of the PDP and wanted to thank the AC for their great work on it. The Board noted that they had the authority to approve it at their last meeting but decided to use a public consultation for full transparency for such a key document. The CEO will bring the results of the consultation to the Board when completed. The consultation will go out within the next month. When it is completed, the Board will vote on accepting the document.

  The COO stated that Board Trustee, Tina Morris, highlighted and recognized the great work of the AC to the Board at their last meeting. The Chair thanked the COO for the information. AP thanked the Board and stated that she looks forward to the consultation.

• Policy Experience Report Working Group (PER WG) Update. AW stated that they are current on their workload. She noted that the last issue regarding ARIN’s role in blacklisted space was not found to be a concern to the community. She stated that we will complete that issue and be ready for ARIN 50. The CCO noted that the community did not want ARIN to add any additional hold times to ARIN’s current process at this time. Their input was that they would rather have the addresses issued and they would deal with any routing issues. AW agreed.

20. Any Other Business

The Chair called for any other business.

• Changes in Employment and Affiliation. RS stated that mid-year he was promoted to Distinguished Engineer in his company. LS stated that he is now working in network engineering in his company.
• ARIN 50. The Chair stated that the staff and legal deadline is Sept. 7 and the text freeze deadline on any recommended draft policies is Sept. 20 and asked the AC to please be aware of these deadlines.
• ARIN Fellowship Program. The Chair stated that one more mentor is needed and to please reach out to staff if any members would like to volunteer. The Chair provided the URL to the AC to reach out to staff.
• ICANN Fellow. The Chair stated that he is a Fellow, and he is flying out to the ICANN meeting on the day of the AC’s September teleconference. He stated that the Vice Chair will be leading the AC’s September meeting.

21. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:59 p.m. ET. MW moved to adjourn, seconded by KR. The meeting adjourned with no objections.