ARIN 33 Public Policy Meeting Notes - Tuesday, 15 April 2014 [Archived]

Opening and Announcements

Speaker: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO

Transcript

Highlights:

• Sponsor acknowledgement
  • Network Connectivity sponsor: ServerCentral and RCN Business
  • Happy Hour sponsor: ServerCentral
  • Webcast sponsor: Google
  • ARIN Social Event sponsor: Level4 Hardware
  • Refreshment Break sponsor: ServerHub
• Head Table Introductions
• Overview of meeting rules
• Discussion moderator: Paul Andersen, Vice Chair and Treasurer, ARIN Board of Trustees
• Agenda overview
• Overview of ARIN Meeting Materials

Attendees present in session room: approximately 100

Remote participants present: approximately 10

Unique webcast viewers: 197

NRO Activities Report

Speaker: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO

Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Presentation Highlights:

• NRO goals and mission overview
• NRO key focus areas
• 2014 NRO members
• Address Supporting Organization (ASO) and ASO Address Council (ASO AC) overview and members
• NRO finances
• Internet Governance Forum involvement
• 2013 correspondence overview
• Other developments
• Global coordination

There were no questions or discussion topics following this presentation.

NRO NC Report

Speaker: Ron da Silva, NRO NC

Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Presentation Highlights:

• NRO overview
• NRO Executive Council and its members
• NRO NC overview
• ASO and ASO AC overview
• Global policies and global policy development
• ICANN participation in global policy development
• Recent activities
  • Operating procedure change regarding member appointments to bodies such as the ICANN NomCom, Working Groups, etc.
• Current appointments to the ICANN board and other bodies

There were no comments or questions from the floor following this presentation.

ARIN 2014-3: Remove 8.2 And 8.3 And 8.4 Minimum IPv4 Block Size Requirements

Introduction: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO

Speaker: Owen DeLong, ARIN Advisory Council
Introduction: PDF
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Staff Introduction Highlights:

• History
  • Origin: ARIN-prop-195 (Jan 2014)
  • AC Shepherds: Owen DeLong, Bill Darte
  • AC accepted as Draft Policy in Jan 2014
  • Presented at PPC at NANOG 60
  • Draft Policy text
• Work in progress overview and request for feedback

AC Presentation Highlights:

• Problem statement
• Policy statement
• Feedback so far
• Discussion overview

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

• Whether or not a /24 minimum transfer size is beneficial to network operators
• Potential impact of the policy on Reverse DNS
• Applications across all transfer policies whether or not they are inter-RIR
• Impact on small exchange points
• Routing table size management as it relates to ARIN
• The potential for an increase in customer transfer demands
• Clarification of perceived staff operational impact
• Recipient RIR policy impact on transfers

At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

Straw poll for/against continuing work on the proposal:

• Total attendees/remote participants: 106
• In favor: 24
• Against: 10

ARIN 2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA And 8.2 Utilization Requirements

Introduction: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO

Speaker: Heather Schiller, ARIN Advisory Council
Introduction: PDF
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Staff Introduction Highlights:

• History
  • Origin: ARIN-prop-199 (Jan 2014)
  • AC Shepherds: Heather Schiller, Scott Leibrand
  • Presented at PPC at NANOG 60
  • AC accepted as Draft Policy in Feb 2014
  • Draft Policy text
• Work in progress overview and request for feedback

AC Presentation Highlights:

• Problem statement
• Proposed solution and what it solves
• Text to remain in NRPM
• PPML feedback against and in favor of the policy

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

• Impact on abandoned transfers
• Support for simply removing “reclaim” and “aggregate” from the policy language
• Concern regarding the potential impact on the transfer market and monetization of IP addresses
• Clarification of ARIN’s role when it comes to unused IP addresses and 8.2 transfers
• Functional differences between “return” and “reclaim” in NRPM

At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

Straw poll for/against continuing work on the proposal:

• Total attendees/remote participants: 101
• In favor: 30
• Against: 2

ARIN 2014-2: Improving 8.4 Anti Flip Language

Introduction: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO

Speaker: Bill Darte, ARIN Advisory Council
Introduction: PDF
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Staff Introduction Highlights:

• History
  • Origin: ARIN-prop-194 (Jan 2014)
  • AC Shepherds: Bill Darte, Owen DeLong
  • AC accepted as Draft Policy in Jan 2014
  • Presented at PPC at NANOG 60
  • Revised in March 2014
  • Draft Policy text
• Work in progress overview and request for feedback

AC Presentation Highlights:

• Problem statement
• Current 8.4 policy language
• Conditions on sources and recipients
• Discussion summary
• Newly modified policy statement
• Next steps

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

• Concern regarding the policy’s vulnerability for abuse of the IPv4 free pool and transfer market
• Clarification regarding the 12-month period between requests
• Support for allowing internal inter-RIR transfers without time restrictions
• Support for removing any restrictions on IPv4 transfers
• Geolocation and its impact on the policy and current transfer practices
• Concern over ARIN setting operational precedence through this policy
• Financial impact on international organizations

At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

Straw poll for/against continuing work on the proposal:

• Total attendees/remote participants: 103
• In favor: 36
• Against: 2

ARIN 2014-1: Out Of Region Use

Introduction: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO

Speaker: Milton Mueller, ARIN Advisory Council
Introduction: PDF
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Staff Introduction Highlights:

• History
  • Origin: ARIN-prop-192 (Dec 2013)
  • AC Shepherds: Milton Mueller, Stacy
  • Hughes, Bill Darte
  • AC accepted as Draft Policy in Jan 2014
  • Presented at PPC at NANOG 60
  • Revised in March 2014
  • Draft Policy text
• Work in progress overview and request for feedback

AC Presentation Highlights:

• Problem statement
• Proposed solution and what it solves
• Text to remain in NRPM
• PPML feedback against and in favor of the policy

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

• Impact on abandoned transfers
• Support for simply removing “reclaim” and “aggregate” from the policy language
• Concern regarding the potential impact on the transfer market and monetization of IP addresses
• Addressing the question of ensuring people don’t use a single host to qualify for addresses in more than one region
• Clarification of ARIN’s role when it comes to unused IP addresses and 8.2 transfers
• Functional differences between “return” and “reclaim” in NRPM

At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

Straw poll for/against continuing work on the proposal:

• Total attendees/remote participants: 101
• In favor: 30
• Against: 2

ARIN 2014-8: Alignment Of 8.3 Needs Requirements To Reality Of Business

Introduction: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO

Speaker: Kevin Blumberg, ARIN Advisory Council
Introduction: PDF
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Staff Introduction Highlights:

• History
  • Origin: ARIN-prop-193 (Jan 2014)
  • AC Shepherds: Kevin Blumberg, Milton Mueller
  • Presented at PPC at NANOG 60
  • AC accepted as Draft Policy in Feb 2014
  • Draft Policy text
• Work in progress overview and request for feedback

AC Presentation Highlights:

• Problem statement
• Policy statement
• Suggested draft change
• Discussion overview

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

• Clarification regarding “resources” vs “addresses”
• Concern regarding the removal of protections from 8.3 transfer language
• Request to have transferred IP addresses be excluded from immediate need criteria
• Clarification regarding the perceived progressions of ARIN’s IPv4 runout
• Suggestion for more focus on economic cost over justifiable IPv4 address block size
• The need to simplify transfer language in the NRPM post-runout

At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

Straw poll for/against continuing work on the proposal:

• Total attendees/remote participants: 103
• In favor: 27
• Against: 3

Draft Policy ARIN 2014-12: Anti Hijack Policy

Introduction: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO

Speaker: David Farmer, ARIN Advisory Council
Introduction: PDF
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Staff Introduction Highlights:

• History
  • Origin: ARIN-prop-202 (Feb 2014)
  • AC Shepherds: David Farmer, Cathy Aronson
  • AC accepted as Draft Policy in Mar 2014
  • Draft Policy text
• Work in progress overview and request for feedback

AC Presentation Highlights:

• Context
• Problem statement
• Policy statement
• Annotated policy text
• Useful reference links

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

• Clarification regarding ARIN’s potential for issuing LOAs for operational space
• Support for the policy and its impact on experimental allocation documentation
• Concern over the wording “does not overlap previously assigned space.”
• Clarification regarding law enforcement use of experimental temporary allocations
• Potential impact on operationally utilized ROAs
• Staff clarification that there are three current experimental allocations and their existence in Whois

At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

Straw poll for/against continuing work on the proposal:

• Total attendees/remote participants: 105
• In favor: 26
• Against: 0

Draft Policy ARIN 2014-11: Improved Registry Accuracy Proposal

Introduction: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO

Speaker: Kevin Blumberg, ARIN Advisory Council
Introduction: PDF
Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Staff Introduction Highlights:

• History
  • Origin: ARIN-prop-203 (Feb 2014)
  • AC Shepherds: Kevin Blumberg, Bill Darte
  • AC accepted as Draft Policy in Feb 2014
  • Draft Policy text
• Work in progress overview and request for feedback

AC Presentation Highlights:

• Problem statement
• Policy statement
• Discussion overview

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

• Concern over the policy’s helpfulness to organizations using legacy space
• Concern over the overly complicated nature of the policy
• Clarification regarding reclamation arguments vs. the registry accuracy issue at hand with this policy
• Concern with the definition of “legacy resource” and its inherent transferrable obligations
• Clarification of the original author’s intent
• Statistical clarification regarding legacy resource holders
• Request that the policy be divided to lessen complexity

At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

Straw poll for/against continuing work on the proposal:

• Total attendees/remote participants: 110
• In favor: 11
• Against: 15

Internet Number Resource Status Report

Speaker: Leslie Nobile, ARIN Director of Registration Services

Presentation: PDF
Transcript

Presentation Highlights:

• Status of IPv4 address space
• Available /8s in each RIR
• Issued IPv4 address space
• ASN assignments
• IPv6 allocations
• IPv6 assignments
• Members with both IPv4 and IPv6 in each RIR
• Links to RIR statistics references

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

• Concern regarding ARIN ASN issuance policy on 4-byte vs 2-byte ASNs
• Potential for a reserved block of IPv4 for new registrants

Internet Governance Update

Speaker: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO

Transcript

Presentation Highlights:

• 14 March, Department of Commerce National Telecommunications Information Administration (NTIA) announcement and resulting discussions
• Upcoming open comment period regarding ICANN’s plan of action

Discussion transcript - Questions/Discussion Topics:

• Clarification regarding NTIA’s responsibilities and the resulting confusion created by the term “Internet Governance”
• Concern regarding the neutrality and impartial nature of ICANN’s forthcoming role structuring process
• Overview of the open comment period for ICANN’s initial documents
• Upcoming NetMundial discussions and their impact on ICANN’s process
• Overview of the NTIA stewardship transition plan and acceptance criteria
• Upcoming discussion fora potentially involving the NTIA plan
• Clarification regarding the White House’s white paper’s usage of Domain Name Service
• ICANN invitation for comment by 8 May, 12:00 AM UTC
• Clarification of scope during ICANN’s convening process

Open Microphone

Moderator: Vinton G. Cerf, Chair, ARIN Board of Trustees

Transcript

Discussion Topics:

• Potential for addressing the large percentage of Internet community members without any formal agreements with ARIN
• Setting aside a section of IPv4 resources for new entrants
• Repetition of Registration Services Agreement (RSA) language throughout Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM)
• Clarification of current open suggestions and the prioritization process
• Staff comment on the recent increase in Shared Whois Project updates (SWIPs) to the ARIN database
• Potential for an ARIN-RIPE NCC transfer process and its impact on IP address uniqueness
• IPv4 post-exhaustion policy vs IPv6-focused policy in recent discussions
• Clarification on the Advisory Council’s role in developing policy, whether it be IPv4- or IPv6-focused
• ARIN’s current practice regarding investigating unallocated, abused Internet number resources
• Clarification regarding ASN uniqueness
• Extended delegation statistics files and their impact on systematic review and notification for unallocated resource misuse
• Potential impact of affording membership to the approximately 30,000 resource holders who currently are not ARIN members
• Concern over charging end-users (non-members) a fee for the right to participate in ARIN elections
• Request for a timeline of Global Trust Anchor work
• Praise for ARIN On the Road outreach

Closing Announcements And Adjournment

Speaker: John Curran, ARIN President and CEO

Transcript

Highlights:

• Sponsor acknowledgement

  • Network Connectivity sponsor: ServerCentral and RCN Business
  • Happy Hour sponsor: ServerCentral
  • Webcast sponsor: Google
  • ARIN Social Event sponsor: Level4 Hardware
  • Refreshment Break sponsor: ServerHub
  • Adjournment (4:55 PM)

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